Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

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Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Paul » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:14 pm

I felt I needed to make a post to salute the 1970's Thorn Popular Pack, the same of which is the logo at the top of the allthingslighting forums.
This fitting has to be, in my opinion, the best ever designed fluorescent batten in terms of quality, aesthetics and being quite advanced for it's time.
This fitting was pretty much everywhere throughout my childhood and maybe that is why I am so familiar or fond of it but I do think it goes further than that. Although the following MK was very similar, it did have much cheaper battens and a nasty, flimsier feel about it.
So, here's a recognition of my favourite all time batten, the Thorn Popular Pack!!

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by SuperSix » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:55 pm

I completly agree. I still think it's very modern looking today compared to the earlier models by Thorn like the Superslim. I love the shape of the Superslim and the grey end caps but i love the simplicty of the Pop Pack, especially the SRS and QS versions where you just stick a tube in and they go. I think the Pop Pack wins with me, always looks great :D

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Tom » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:27 pm

The most copied and iconic batten! Period.

Thorn should re-launch this as the 'Popular Pack Classic' !!
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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Kev » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:55 pm

See i too like these fittings a LOT infact see these These are a mixture of 73 and 77 Thorn PP100s and 125s. They started life in a secondary school where they did about 30 years service HARD work in dark science rooms where they were used daily. Then they were in my friends old car garage where they were used for about 14 Hrs a day for the last 6 years. Now i have taken them down again cleaned them where they will be re-installed in their brand new garage!!! A quick blast of foam cleaner and they are good again.

HOWEVER. I do like this fitting and they are very good. But when you think about it all the fluorescents from this period were very good crompaks ETC. I would say that the Courtney-Popes and Thorlux were just as good as these if not Very slightly better!
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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Paul » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:00 am

I don't have much experience of other makes, I grew up in Africa where, believe it or not, South African manufactured Popular Packs were very common. There were other strange fittings which I have never seen over here in the UK which where pretty robust looking fittings but the clean streamlined PP has always been my favourite!

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Kev » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:11 pm

Yes grey sided Atlas fittings are still about now! I look after a vets that still has loads! The springs on the inside were first! I have a gray sided Atlas with a brand new cover plate on in the loft lol

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Paul » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:15 am

Go and stand in the corner for 10 mins!!! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Jack_T » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:17 am

I prefer the old Atlas Superslims, but these are one of the best fittings (if not THE best) ever!

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Kev » Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:40 pm

To be honest pretty much ALL T12 fittings were built like brick s*h!t houses! The Thorlux and Courtney-popes were just as good! Not to mention the Crompaks! Infact im trying to think of a T12 Fluorescent that wasnt any good....??? :?

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Jack_T » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:03 pm

The old Tamlites etc. Though lately Tamlite have become one of the best, as I can still make them take T12s :D :D :D :D

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Paul » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:26 pm

I do have to give recognition to the other T12's that were solid built from the same era. The PP is only the best one for me because it was quite literally everywhere when I was young....

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Jack_T » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:16 am

Still is, Paul! I see them all the time!

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by robtdci » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:38 am

They are a great fitting, very tidy and much imitated design and many are still in use, though not as many as I would like. Still remember them being installed in my school a few weeks after I started back in 1978 replacing filament lamps, I was fascinated even then at the age of 5! Have always been used to seeing them in 3 configurations;

1 - Bare, no diffuser.
2 - With either an opal or prismatic diffuser
3 - With a diffuser kit (the square end caps) but no diffuser.

It was fairly common to see them in the 3rd state, either because the fragile diffuser had broken, or due to removal for extra light. I actually like all 3 configurations, even the 3rd, though I expect I am alone in also liking the 3rd state lol :D .

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by bradbttl » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:35 pm

there are many pop packs at the school I attend. The majority are 1980s mk12 switch start with prismatic diffuser. Most of the starters are ced and the bulbs are sylvania luxine plus 70w 865 and some are 835. There are some srs 1970s pop packs with 75/85w 835 bulbs and prismatic diffusers. There are some modern Fitzgerald fittings with prismatic diffusers but I don't know what bulbs they have. There are some eterna switch start 58w 835. And that is about it, also some of the pop packs have missing diffusers like the one in the picture
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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by amtrakuk » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:03 pm

Yes cause. I never though what preceded the pop pack in school. I guess it they would have been filament lamps with metal dome reflectors.

When I were about 5, I remember jack-chain suspended 6ft twin switch start with diffusers. Loved watching them gently sway on the chains if the windows were open on a windy day
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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by brite_spark » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:02 pm

I think the Thorn Pop pack of the 70's had to be the best looking, best built fluorescent of all time.
I never thought anybody else would have a interest in light fittings, and thought I was odd. But when I was a kid I guess it was how they use to flash when starting got my attention. But even now I just love the design of this fitting, and have a really good condition one in my garage. It must be almost as old as me. It's the only fitting I have never modified. No fitting has ever been this well designed. I still have fond memories of them when I was a kid, fiddling with the one in my aunts kitchen. Thorn should revive this excellent model, wishful thinking.

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Kev » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:09 pm

^^^^^ I completely agree brite spark! Modern thorn is just a joke I don't touch it!!!!

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Tom » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:29 pm

Totally agreed! Welcome to ATL Brite Spark! Strange to think we all thought we were alone in this great hobby and interest only we would understand! What's even more strange to think about, is the fact the T12 PP design is approaching fifty years old! It was around 1967-68 I think the first incarnations took over from the Superslim and included the then new 'Super Six' 6' 85w tube with SRS gear!
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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by brite_spark » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:11 pm

This in my opinion is the best fluorescent light fixture ever made.
My vintage Thorn Poppack still working great, and nearly as old as myself.
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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Kev » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:00 am

I relamped a couple grey sider 6' SRS the other week Tom, in a shop black BLI branded ballasts probably worked faithfully for hundreds of thousands of hours now! Luckily I had some holland philips 75W 35 on the van I had been saving for a special place! As expected they came right on no problem, only slightly vocal lol

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Re: Thorn Popular Pack c1970s

Post by Paul » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:07 pm

Good old PP's!
Welcome to the club - I think many of us thought we were weird being interested in lighting and certainly never imagined so many other people were as well!

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